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		<title>By: Angie silberberger &#124; Sybaritejourna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie silberberger &#124; Sybaritejourna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] W.I.S.E.: Human-Habituated Wolves In Idaho : Idaho Hunting TodayJan 19, 2010 &#8230; Angie Silberberger on March 12th, 2010 3:09 am. Thank you for this information. We live in northern MN and late last summer a wolf was &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] W.I.S.E.: Human-Habituated Wolves In Idaho : Idaho Hunting TodayJan 19, 2010 &#8230; Angie Silberberger on March 12th, 2010 3:09 am. Thank you for this information. We live in northern MN and late last summer a wolf was &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Remington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Remington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane - The best reason to give to your question is that when wolves are forced or choose to habituate human populated areas, there are problems. Where wolves live in Alaska is far less densely populated than Idaho. And, who says Alaska and Minnesota don&#039;t have problems with wolves?

Brian - We believe for certain that the introduced wolves to the Idaho, YNP area were the Canadian gray wolf from regions considerably farther north. There is ample historic documents as well as tons of anecdotal evidence that there was still the &quot;native&quot; wolf living and making a come back on its own before the introduction. And yes there is historic evidence to suggest that in many of those areas, if not all, where wolves were brought in from Canada, the &quot;native&quot; wolves were a different subspecies of wolf than the Canadian gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane &#8211; The best reason to give to your question is that when wolves are forced or choose to habituate human populated areas, there are problems. Where wolves live in Alaska is far less densely populated than Idaho. And, who says Alaska and Minnesota don&#8217;t have problems with wolves?</p>
<p>Brian &#8211; We believe for certain that the introduced wolves to the Idaho, YNP area were the Canadian gray wolf from regions considerably farther north. There is ample historic documents as well as tons of anecdotal evidence that there was still the &#8220;native&#8221; wolf living and making a come back on its own before the introduction. And yes there is historic evidence to suggest that in many of those areas, if not all, where wolves were brought in from Canada, the &#8220;native&#8221; wolves were a different subspecies of wolf than the Canadian gray.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 06:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wolves in Idaho I&#039;m told are not the original species of wolves of the past and that is why they are so large. These animals come from a region in Canada farther north, is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wolves in Idaho I&#8217;m told are not the original species of wolves of the past and that is why they are so large. These animals come from a region in Canada farther north, is that true?</p>
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		<title>By: duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is it that other states like alaska and minnesota have no problems with wolves but the people of idaho do? i think its mainly hunters who are upset that they cant kill the elk themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is it that other states like alaska and minnesota have no problems with wolves but the people of idaho do? i think its mainly hunters who are upset that they cant kill the elk themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think hunger drives habituation in all cases. Where we live in central Idaho, the elk have been hanging out in town, and the wolves followed them.  Wolves are curious and when they try something new and if nothing bad happens, they will try it again and it proceeds from there.  No wonder humans were able to domesticate them (dogs.)

Wolves don&#039;t belong running around in people&#039;s neighborhoods. We need to give them the fear of man they are losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think hunger drives habituation in all cases. Where we live in central Idaho, the elk have been hanging out in town, and the wolves followed them.  Wolves are curious and when they try something new and if nothing bad happens, they will try it again and it proceeds from there.  No wonder humans were able to domesticate them (dogs.)</p>
<p>Wolves don&#8217;t belong running around in people&#8217;s neighborhoods. We need to give them the fear of man they are losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie - Sorry I didn&#039;t pick up on your comment prior to this. It is obvious you are in the middle of a situation that requires your vigilance and attention. I would presume the wolves in your area are hungry. This hunger could be caused by a number of things, including too many wolves, not enough food, etc.

Generally speaking wolves will not move into human habituated areas unless they are forced, usually be hunger, combined with young males being forced out of the pack, etc. Once they have become habituated only trouble ensues.

The wolves have become brazen as demonstrated by coming onto your porch. They obviously lack any fear. Without knowing all your details, my guess is the next step would be attacks on your pets and livestock if you have any. This will progress into what Dr. Geist describes as a &quot;playful&quot; attack on a human. They are testing the response.

Hunger is the driving force behind what wolves do and their natural instinct to kill. Some are offended by this but truth should not be offensive. The wolf is a vicious apex predator that sometimes kills for the mere enjoyment of doing such.

Until we can educate enough people in order to effect some changes in how we manage these creatures, you and your family need to be on your toes and don&#039;t assume everything is fine. Be vigilant. 

I&#039;m not intending to frighten you only to make you aware. I don&#039;t want to read about another statistic in the local newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie &#8211; Sorry I didn&#8217;t pick up on your comment prior to this. It is obvious you are in the middle of a situation that requires your vigilance and attention. I would presume the wolves in your area are hungry. This hunger could be caused by a number of things, including too many wolves, not enough food, etc.</p>
<p>Generally speaking wolves will not move into human habituated areas unless they are forced, usually be hunger, combined with young males being forced out of the pack, etc. Once they have become habituated only trouble ensues.</p>
<p>The wolves have become brazen as demonstrated by coming onto your porch. They obviously lack any fear. Without knowing all your details, my guess is the next step would be attacks on your pets and livestock if you have any. This will progress into what Dr. Geist describes as a &#8220;playful&#8221; attack on a human. They are testing the response.</p>
<p>Hunger is the driving force behind what wolves do and their natural instinct to kill. Some are offended by this but truth should not be offensive. The wolf is a vicious apex predator that sometimes kills for the mere enjoyment of doing such.</p>
<p>Until we can educate enough people in order to effect some changes in how we manage these creatures, you and your family need to be on your toes and don&#8217;t assume everything is fine. Be vigilant. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not intending to frighten you only to make you aware. I don&#8217;t want to read about another statistic in the local newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Silberberger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie Silberberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this information.  We live in northern MN and late last summer a wolf was pushing against my daughter and her dog&#039;s tent and she called me out by walkie talkie.  It was late dusk and I saw the tall wolf trot off into the woods as I approached.  I went back in but it wasn&#039;t but 10 minutes that she heard an entire pack excitedly running toward our yard.  I ran out and yelled while my husband brought the gun and shot a warning shot into the night.  Our daughter and her dog slept inside from then on.

This winter, wolves have been approaching our home at night and tipped over the garbage and we found they had dragged a bag off 700&#039; and tore it apart.  

We let our dogs out on a lead while we usually stand outside with them for potty break.  A couple of months ago, I heard a sound about 400&#039; away and I could hear it move along the edge of our yard - shining the flashlight at the sound I saw it&#039;s eyes shining back at me.  It skirted the perimeter and still was about 400&#039; away from me.  

The dogs have been barking and turning around instead of going for potty break several times in the evening recently.

In the last two weeks...
I have been working in our log home sanding with a grinder till 7:00 - 7:30pm every evening.  I have come out into the dark more than once and had the hair stand up on the back of my neck.  One of those occasions, I came in and my husband said there&#039;s something out there - the dogs have been going nuts barking at something.

We were outside with the dogs a couple of days after that and our small lab mix saw something near the cabin in broad daylight that she was growling and hair on her back standing straight up but she did not advance toward it.  We went inside immediately.

Three nights ago, I was sanding on a ladder inside the cabin about 7pm (late dusk) and I heard loud steps run up onto the front porch - the front door was cracked.  I stopped the grinder, listened and it crossed my mind it may have been a wolf but I dismissed it as imagination.

The next morning, I husband called me outside to look at the largest wolf tracks we have ever seen.  We tracked it up the path to the cabin and then the tracks disappeared and reappeared from the edge of the steps back toward our small cottage.  It came up to the cottage as well.  There may have been another set of prints of a smaller wolf with it but we can&#039;t confirm that.

I can see the stages of escalation pretty clearly over these last 9 months.  We&#039;ve had one pack splinter into two.  This winter we saw a pair running up our river together and they may be splitting into three packs this spring.  Wisconsin, our neighboring state allowed too many deer to be taken this last season.  I do not know the status of the Minnesota deer population but I know the moose are in serious decline due to the warming of our weather.

After reading your article I would very much appreciate your thoughts if you and others on this site read this long thread.  Thank you, Angie Silberberger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this information.  We live in northern MN and late last summer a wolf was pushing against my daughter and her dog&#8217;s tent and she called me out by walkie talkie.  It was late dusk and I saw the tall wolf trot off into the woods as I approached.  I went back in but it wasn&#8217;t but 10 minutes that she heard an entire pack excitedly running toward our yard.  I ran out and yelled while my husband brought the gun and shot a warning shot into the night.  Our daughter and her dog slept inside from then on.</p>
<p>This winter, wolves have been approaching our home at night and tipped over the garbage and we found they had dragged a bag off 700&#8242; and tore it apart.  </p>
<p>We let our dogs out on a lead while we usually stand outside with them for potty break.  A couple of months ago, I heard a sound about 400&#8242; away and I could hear it move along the edge of our yard &#8211; shining the flashlight at the sound I saw it&#8217;s eyes shining back at me.  It skirted the perimeter and still was about 400&#8242; away from me.  </p>
<p>The dogs have been barking and turning around instead of going for potty break several times in the evening recently.</p>
<p>In the last two weeks&#8230;<br />
I have been working in our log home sanding with a grinder till 7:00 &#8211; 7:30pm every evening.  I have come out into the dark more than once and had the hair stand up on the back of my neck.  One of those occasions, I came in and my husband said there&#8217;s something out there &#8211; the dogs have been going nuts barking at something.</p>
<p>We were outside with the dogs a couple of days after that and our small lab mix saw something near the cabin in broad daylight that she was growling and hair on her back standing straight up but she did not advance toward it.  We went inside immediately.</p>
<p>Three nights ago, I was sanding on a ladder inside the cabin about 7pm (late dusk) and I heard loud steps run up onto the front porch &#8211; the front door was cracked.  I stopped the grinder, listened and it crossed my mind it may have been a wolf but I dismissed it as imagination.</p>
<p>The next morning, I husband called me outside to look at the largest wolf tracks we have ever seen.  We tracked it up the path to the cabin and then the tracks disappeared and reappeared from the edge of the steps back toward our small cottage.  It came up to the cottage as well.  There may have been another set of prints of a smaller wolf with it but we can&#8217;t confirm that.</p>
<p>I can see the stages of escalation pretty clearly over these last 9 months.  We&#8217;ve had one pack splinter into two.  This winter we saw a pair running up our river together and they may be splitting into three packs this spring.  Wisconsin, our neighboring state allowed too many deer to be taken this last season.  I do not know the status of the Minnesota deer population but I know the moose are in serious decline due to the warming of our weather.</p>
<p>After reading your article I would very much appreciate your thoughts if you and others on this site read this long thread.  Thank you, Angie Silberberger</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Mr. Remington for such a well written and informative article. This is undeniably the best information we the general public need to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Mr. Remington for such a well written and informative article. This is undeniably the best information we the general public need to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hagedorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Hagedorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you, Dr. Val, George Dovel and I could go on and on.  We just try and get people to understand, when a predator gets hungry it is going to eat something.  It dont really matter if it is one of there own.  I live here  in country that used to be some of the best deer, elk, bird country you could ask for.  Due to paradators these anamials are leaving the natural cover and going back into the open fields and range.  Elk have moved to the west into open country 200 miles.  I receive calls and emails every week of wolves hanging around small towns, schools and ranches.  This is when the pets and live stock start missing.  I am sorry to say that pradators kill to eat.  When we have to many that is when the trouble begains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you, Dr. Val, George Dovel and I could go on and on.  We just try and get people to understand, when a predator gets hungry it is going to eat something.  It dont really matter if it is one of there own.  I live here  in country that used to be some of the best deer, elk, bird country you could ask for.  Due to paradators these anamials are leaving the natural cover and going back into the open fields and range.  Elk have moved to the west into open country 200 miles.  I receive calls and emails every week of wolves hanging around small towns, schools and ranches.  This is when the pets and live stock start missing.  I am sorry to say that pradators kill to eat.  When we have to many that is when the trouble begains.</p>
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